Biblical Archaeology Review carried an article about this about a year back, as [], [] month it will receive the widest hearing to date. . 2: http://eternityimpact.sermon.net/main/main/21019905. Valley means that the river Jordan was flowing there Gen. 13:10 BEFORE the LORD destroyed the four cities. HIKE DESCRIPTION: Start Climbing on the Blue marked trail (1). That is helpful. ?And Samaria. They wanted to gang-rape the two male angels. Travel with us on our journey into the past in our free eBook Exploring Jordan. First, The idea that "all" the men of Sodom were gay is ridiculous and does not hold any water. Bethel and Ai are located near Jericho which is located directly across from the northern end of the Dead Sea. Sodom and Gomorrah along with the cities of Admah, Zeboiim, and Zoar (Bela) constituted the five "cities of the plain," and they are referenced throughout both the Old and New Testament and the Qurn. Locating Sodom at Tall el-Hammam by Dr. Todd Bolen on his blog (08/23/14). (1918). First inhabited during the Chalcolithic period (46003600 B.C.E. Zoar. Combine a one-year tablet and print subscription to BAR with membership in the BAS Library to start your journey into the ancient past today! From the If one placed Zoar on the Arnon/Wadi Mujib, then, it could be labeled Zared!. The All-Access membership pass is the way to get to know the Bible through biblical archaeology. 58 You must pay for all the vulgar and disgusting things you have done. They were situated in the well-watered Jordan . standing pillar of salt is a monument of an unbelieving soul. Thank Dr. Collins for your important work on this. The Arabian geographers mention it under the name Zughar, Sughar, situated 1 degrees South of Jericho, in a hot and unhealthful valley at the end of the Dead Sea, and speak of it as an important station on the trade route between Akkabah and Jericho. Photo: Michael C. Luddeni. Perhaps youll never quite look at things the same way again. The location of Zoar has much to do with that of the cities of the Plain or Valley of Siddim, with which it is always connected. Halfway Point Between Hebron, NB and Zoar, NF. . It's of no surprise since they're known for wickedness (Ezekiel 16:49). Note the parallel with Abraham pleading for Sodom. Roman Crucifixion Methods Reveal the History of Crucifixion, http://eternityimpact.sermon.net/main/main/21019904, http://eternityimpact.sermon.net/main/main/21019905, https://www.academia.edu/33972456/How_Old_was_Father_Abraham_Re-examining_the_Patriarchal_Lifespans_in_Light_of_Archaeology, https://drive.google.com/open?id=1OAnA00FnjmZcm1BuKfb-sjsnTivus0Gq, http://lmlk.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-kikkar-dialogues.html, http://lmlk.wordpress.com/2014/05/26/the-kikkar-dialogues/, http://www.amazon.com/review/R35FWSUTDYE5D4/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=061590999X, http://www.amazon.com/review/R3381RLNN8QGOV/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=1451684304, http://www.amazon.com/review/R3RYEFE6CD7HQA/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=061590999X, http://blog.bibleplaces.com/2012/01/biblical-problems-with-locating-sodom.html#c5540397197379336674, http://blog.bibleplaces.com/2013/02/arguments-against-locating-sodom-at.html, http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-sites-places/biblical-archaeology-sites/where-is-s. Same for Noah and the ark. It is a distinct circular depression 8 miles wide. The locations on the map noted by Schlegel are among them. plain is actually the right word to use for geography. (Note: This is an updated and reformatted version from what was . follow it for a total of 1.4 Km, The initial climb is steep but then the trail makes a sharp left and levels. (Trans.). Lot was whisked to the outskirts of > Sodom > (still in harm?s way). SODOM (modern Sedom) AND GOMORRAH. This is detailed quite nicely in Neev and Emerys geological work The Destruction of Sodom, Gomorrah and Jericho1 and numerous other geological resources. Therefore, the position that God does not exist is a position of faith. On Youtube there are videos showing towns and structures that had been so heated they turned to ash that cascaded down in the same approx 40degree angle as seen in any industrial dump site. Then my life Not helpful is posing a battle between BAR and historical, biblical studies. In conclusion, the best location for Zoar is not on the southeast corner of the Dead Sea's shallow . For one thing, Lot's virgin daughters were pledged to be married to men of Sodom. This man Lot was a close member of Abraham's family (Genesis 11:31, Genesis 13:8-9, Genesis 14:16.) We can learn about the society where the ancient Israelites, and later Jesus and the Apostles, lived through the modern discoveries that provide us clues. By submitting above, you agree to our privacy policy. If the cities of the plain could defeat the invading . It's not a good thing to be ignorant of the things one professes to believe in. What is BARs position on the rich deposits of hail-sized sulfur to the west of the Dead Sea? I forgot there were 5 cities and not just Sodom and Gomorrah. As for the distance from Tall el-Hammam to Zoar at the confluence of the Arnon with the Dead Seait is 27 miles, not over 40 miles as Schlegel states. Abram travels north to rescue Lot. 131-138. The Late Bronze Gap, observed by many archaeologists working in the Jordan Valley can be explained by the destruction event as described in the Bible. He was a very righteous man, and Sodom was a very sinful city. Samaria didn?t sin Bible Gateway Someday? Most recently, in shooting a documentary for National Geographic, the entire floor of the Byzantine church which contains the mosaic map was cleared and cleaned so that I could personally examine it in detail (on my hands and knees!). I have been on the dig at Tall el Hammam four times to analyze the bones, and toured Israel and Jordan with TSWU two times. "Sure, okay, but aren't Sodom and Gomorrah still the ones that get destroyed?" you may be wondering. This provided a walkable shelf-like shoreline as a relatively easy route between the two. The sin in question, or at least one of their sins, is revealed to be relations between men, as revealed by the tale involving . In fact, Genesis 13:11 reads that Lot journeyed eastward. There is no indication, at least in Genesis 13 that Lot traveled in a southern direction. I will address his points vis--vis my location of Zoar [at/near the confluence of the Arnon River (Wadi Mujib) with the Dead Sea] in the order of his objections. Collins locates Zoar near the Arnon River (Collins 2020; cf. If youre going to use science at all, you might as well confront your old fears of this system of discovery and open your mind to the complete truth whether that backs up your faith or challenges it to the very foundation. "Therefore the name of the city was called Zoar . It would be great. January 11, 2013 by atozmom, posted in BSF Genesis 2012/2013. Rather it should be, whether one believes they are historical or not. Escape there An article explaining why the Genesis lifespans cannot be face value numbers is posted online: https://www.academia.edu/33972456/How_Old_was_Father_Abraham_Re-examining_the_Patriarchal_Lifespans_in_Light_of_Archaeology, It is pointless to respond to the claims of pseudo-archaeology (BAR wouldnt give the time of day to R. Wyatt) and those holding to Bishop Ussher-style chronologies with which no meaningful Bronze Age archaeology (even biblical archaeology) can be done (liberals have denied Torah historicity on this basis). I will also bless you, Jerusalem. Perhaps, such maps exist somewhere? If this is not the case, then the Madaba Map would have to be declared a geographical distortion unusable for cartographic purposes. (Ref: Moses, Ref. http://www.amazon.com/review/R3381RLNN8QGOV/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=1451684304, My review Archaeologys War on Biblical History for The Kikkar Dialogues (Research & Discovery Series) (Volume 2) on Amazon (06/22/14). . In this section, there is a leitwort that appears seven times: Tzaddik. For example, the entry for Rabbah (Amman) on the first map is listed as 1:D5that is, map 1, square D5. The truth will be apparent over time, as history shows. Zoar was supposed to be destroyed, too, but Lot asked for this city to be spared. Other than Israel, no country has as many Biblical sites and associations as Jordan: Mount Nebo, from where Moses gazed at the Promised Land; Bethany beyond the Jordan, where John baptized Jesus; Lots Cave, where Lot and his daughters sought refuge after the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah; and many more. Todd Bolen responds to Where is Sodom, Lots Cave Museum at Ancient Zoar (Zoora). The Popular Handbook of Archaeology and the Bible (Eugene, OR: Harvest House, 2013), 70, 191, 202, 212220, 38387. Steven Collins, Director, Tall el-Hammam Excavation Project. Keep on trying to prove. The dross will burn away in the refiners fire, and what youll have left is pure gold. testimony, and plants bearing fruit that never come to ripeness: and a Im glad to give BAR readers an update on the Tall el-Hammam/Sodom excavations if they request it. Deuteronomy 29:22-23 identifies two of the other cities as Admah and Zeboim, while Genesis 19:23 identifies the final city as Zoar, which is presumably the fifth Beatle in our tortured analogy. When the Lord agrees to his prayer, Abraham goes back home and the scene shifts to Sodom. The first most important source for locating Sodom and Gomorrah is the location of Zoar ( see more) and Lot's cave and is from the mosaic map on the floor of a church in Madaba, Jordan, known as the Madaba map and as shown in Fig 1 below. No one has to have blind faith, the evidence is there for the finding. Zoar is up to date located at the south end of the dead sea. I say that to note that I have looked/studied the geography each time I was there. . 11 So Lot chose for himself the whole plain of the Jordan and set out toward the east. If you want to meet halfway between Hebron, CT and Zoar, OH or just make a stop in the middle of your trip, the exact coordinates of the halfway point of this route are 41.067623 and -76.985054, or 41 4' 3.4428" N, 76 59' 6.1944" W. This location is 295.68 miles away from Hebron, CT and Zoar, OH and it would take approximately 4 hours 37 mins . Thus, Lot had from dawn to dusk to travel from Sodom (Tall el-Hammam) to Zoar. 57 But now everyone has learned how wicked you really are. Seeking to answer the question Where is Sodom? and using the Biblical geography of Genesis 13 as a guide, Collins decided to excavate Tall el-Hammam, an extensive and heavily fortified site located in modern Jordan at the eastern edge of the kikkar. Robert A. Mullins is the Professor of archaeology and Old Testament at Azusa Pacific University. Like what are you going to get out of it?? Zoar was very close to Sodom. The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah shows God's wrath in full swing, as he punishes the people of those cities - and the cities of Admah and Zeboiim, lest we forget the other two - for their 'grievous' sin. The city was being run by thugs. The countries of Syria and Philistia, as well as your other neighbors, hate you and make insulting remarks. Does Cosmic Background radiation transmit heat? This . Historical records show that it was involved in commercial trade as recently as the 10th century AD. Locating Sodom at Tall el-Hammam by Dr. Todd Bolen on his blog (08/23/14). There are tons of other examples. First, Genesis 13:1-12 strongly suggests that Sodom is located in the Jordan River Valley nort. Not much wonder Sodom was mentioned in the Ebla tables in the Early Bronze age trading with Sodom. According to the story, Abraham's nephew Lot was living in Sodom at the time. Steven Collins response to Shirley S. Reed. (This was before the Lord destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah.) ~ Nathanael AmbassadorHerald Eisner. continues to come out that corroborates the historic accounts in the Bible. God Bless! plane is more of a geometry term in this context. Sodom and Gomorrah Destroyed - The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. (There are countless other examples of negative assertions that can be logically proven or disproven; you can even make a list of many yourself.). By submitting above, you agree to our privacy policy. Zoar, it would seem, was a safe enough distance from Sodom so as not to suffer any collateral damage. The mid-air explosion, referred to as an airburst, would have not only have been bright but would have initiated a 2000+ deg C shock wave and given the soil content would have spread salt to nearly at 25 km radius. I have bookmarked it for later! This bias flies in the face of the archaeological evidence indicating that no one has ever lived even close to the long lifespans referenced in the Bible. The Bible itself explained where Sodom, Admah, Gomorrha and Zeboim were and presently are- just under/ inside the dead sea. Video lectures from world-renowned experts. Yes, Zoar was one of the five "cities of the plain" mentioned in Gen 14, along with Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, Zeboiim. It is also the place where the Biblical writers set their dramatic tale of Sodoms wickedness and destruction (Genesis 19). A version of this post first appeared in Bible History Daily in 2013. 9. Steven Collins, Bill Schlegel is associate professor of Bible at The Masters College, Israel Bible Extension (IBEX), where he teaches Biblical history, geography and Hebrew. Browse other questions tagged, Start here for a quick overview of the site, Detailed answers to any questions you might have, Discuss the workings and policies of this site. [] Thanks994 Originally Posted by WYRD OF GAWD As a self-professed Bible believer you should really read your favorite ethnocentric religious fairy tale. The geographical basis of determining what is on the plain and what is not on the plain seems to be (pardon the pun) shaky ground. As for Schlegels view of Deuteronomy 2:4-5, 9, 34:1-3 and Joshua 13:8-28, I can only say that it borders on nonsense. Lucky me I discovered youur site by chance There needs to be some research into the temperature the S&g nodules burn at and how long they maintain a high heat that will effectively heat very thick walls, columns, statuary to turn it all to the flaky material that crumbles to dust at S&G, [] http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-sites-places/biblical-archaeology-sites/where-is-s [], [] Tall el-Hammam site in Jordan is the location of the biblical Sodom. Sorry Dennis, but you dont make any argument or show any evidence as to WHY fitting archeological sites to the Middle East biblical sites is not objective. Check it out. Sodom and its sister cities are located in the large oval-shaped, fertile plain just north of the Dead Sea called simply ha-kikkar, or the Disk (Genesis 13, verse 13). Cell: 9704424254 And it happened that in the days of Amraphel, the king of Shinar, This web page explores some of the caves of this salt mountain, which are associated with . 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