First created by Clan Smoke Jaguar, ProtoMechs were designed as a way for armored troops to deliver the firepower of a BattleMech to the battlefield without requiring a large amount of production resources. 1:285 (6mm people size) works great for Battletech, though the Kickstarter appears to be shooting for something slightly bigger now. Includes the maps from Map Sets 5 and 6, plus Planetary Assault Maps 1 and 2 from BattleForce 2 and the BattleSpace map. Hardware-Handbuch 3031) was completely left out in this.The German version is printed as DIN A4, a standard European paper size . With BT maps is you generally use one map per person, per lance/star. *shrug* I never took mini's scale that seriously. BattleTroops was one notable departure from this printing convention, instead using a layout of points in a triangular (or arguably hexagonal) pattern rather than a hex-grid. They can look very good, but tend to be pricey. While the materials for the 2020 Worldwide Event was not published, four newly created maps were designed for the scenario, and provided for those who participated in the event. Not all mechs are the same. [10] The only Inner Sphere faction known to have moved beyond theoretical discussions was the Word of Blake, overcoming the control and pilot size issues with the development of an advanced pilot interface based off their Vehicular Direct Neural Interface technology, encasing a limbless Manei Domini in a life-support apparatus that was then sealed within a ProtoMech, the pilot maintained via intravenous nutrients and recycled biomatter. Knowing that their Khans would not even consider full-scale production of ProtoMechs until they were proven effective in combat, the Smoke Jaguar scientists and geneticists began working on the project in secret, understanding that it could be years before their work could be revealed. Standing only half the height of a BattleMech, the smaller units would mass only one-tenth that of the larger machines. Does it really matter if one mech is bigger than another in scale? I try not to think about it to much. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Unlike the bulky Elementals, this new breed would need to be smaller so that they would be able to fit into the cramped confines of a ProtoMech's torso. Captain; The Centurion mapsheets fold out to the equivalent of two BattleTech maps. Sets with other playing maps were later produced as game supplements. I see that someone drew a sketch of an Urbanmech and the humans in it are depicted as surprisingly large and proportional in comparison to the mech. They get bigger and bigger. Published by licensee Ulisses Spiele Hardware Handbuch 3039 is the German edition of Technical Readout: 3039 (TRO:3039).Unlike previous TROs, this edition matches the original edition in all aspects. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Your BattleTech News Roundup For January, 2023, Your BattleTech News Roundup For December, 2022, https://www.sarna.net/wiki/index.php?title=ProtoMech&oldid=911494. Attempts made to breed a new kind of warrior for the ProtoMech ended in failure, leaving the scientists no choice but to use volunteer Aerospace pilots who had failed to test into the Warrior Caste. In comparison to others are battletech ships to small? A high-quality neoprene map set, designed for hexless Alpha Strike play, with one double-sized, 36 x 22", double-sided BattleMat. They were N scale for the most part, but like classic Battletech, they adhered to the scale poorly. When Task Force Serpent first encountered ProtoMechs during the Battle of Huntress, they were completely unknown, and the task force gave them designations in the field. Since this product was not published directly by a BattleTech IP owner or licensee, its status as an official product is arguable. I always justify it with things like ff armor is bulkier than standard, xl engines are bulkier than standard. You get entire self sustaining colonies worth of people living in the massive ships, entire generations live and die without seeing outside of the ship, people are literally worked to death moving these sky scraper ordinance shells around and chucked into a food processor after a battle. since the novels and the fluff also describe some as being larger and smaller than others, this is probably an average figure, not a universal one. They're a tad hard to come by right now due to the kickstarter but they'll be up on Catalysts webstore eventually and they have more designs coming with wave 2: https://imgur.com/a/yoSHDS3. You are using an out of date browser. So now enter the "General Size Comparison Chart" from Technical Readout: 3039 (2009), that's pretty recent. Yes, a Battletech PPC can vaporize 0.66 tons of armor. After the Great Refusal and the destruction of the Smoke Jaguars, many Clans launched raids on Huntress in order to acquire the technology for their own purposes. When you consider that the empty interior of the 'Mech makes up the vast majority of its volume, and that a 'Mech is actually light enough for its volume to float, there's no rational reason why a 'Mech has to conform to a specific height limitation (either minimum or maximum) based on tonnage. The EI control system laid the groundwork needed by Smoke Jaguar scientists for controlling the ProtoMech. [citation needed]. Additionally, the Proto's small size makes it harder to hit, and even if it loses an arm or head the unit can remain combat effective. In addition, punch-out map pieces of various sizes are included to modify the maps as well as a booklet with scenarios and rules expansions for the basic game from Tactical Operations. and our Per pg20 Total Warfare, 'Mechs "stand eight to fourteen meters tall". Five additional hex maps were included. [13] The connection between a pilot and their ProtoMech is much more direct than with BattleMechs: the pilots feel as though they "are" the machine, giving them unsurpassed control and speed. I haven't been able to really find anything on my own so I'm turning here to see if you guys know anything that would help. I like using cheap poster frames for two and four maps. It should have had. A number of Map Sets and Map Set Compilations were published as supplements for the game, providing additional gaming maps with new hex-based terrain. In 2017 Ulisses Spiele released a new, original BattleTech Starterbox boxed set (not to be confused with the previous "Einsteigerbox"). Download the BattleTech Advanced 3062 Installer from the link provided above. This allowed maps to be included in some sourcebooks, too. It's top walking speed is 60 odd kph. Beyond that, it's up to the designer to fit it all together in a manner that functions, regardless of how tall it ends up being. The game can be played on essentially any terrain. Hex sides were printed with various colors to show the changes in terrain features and elevations that could affect the use of certain abilities and equipment. When imagining the Battletech universe (or any sci-fi setting) it isn't how things work that are the problem, it's how things look that is the issue. In the wake of the Dig, Defend, or Die 2018 Worldwide Event, a series of related PDF products was released by CGL that included the scenario's Terrain Set of four newly created maps under the "Map Pack" moniker. The ability to give the pilot direct neural control eliminated the need for a gyroscope and full-sized cockpit. The big jump was from PGI for MWO, and this game uses those models with a x1.25 modifier on their size. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Although the MechWarrior: Dark Age clix game was designed as a miniatures game forgoing gaming maps in favor of miniature terrain, WizKids produced a number of mapsheets with the usual hex grid for various Solaris VII arenas. Your enemies might be hard to detect from orbit, so you need mechs on the ground to call in targets. Create maps that suit your needs. Answer (1 of 2): Hard to answer. 1. Battletech's source material is rather loose with mech size with many of us surely having different opinions on what is "correct." The default size of the game is 'MWO scale' which probably fits with Jordan's soundbite in a recent Paradox stream where he mentioned the Mechs are "30 meters tall." However, with just one quick toggle in a JSON, you can set them to whatever you want! Most of the neoprene/vinyl battle mat companies can put a 1.25 or 1.75 hex overlay on any of their mats, and generally can be had in 4'x4', 4'x6' and sometimes 4'x8' sizes. 'Let the poetry of darkness be written henceforth!. It keep them from shifting around too much and provides some protection. Released first in 1988 with cardboard maps and again in 1991 with paper maps, with the same product number. EDIT: Just noticed above the BattleTech ships are the ships from freakin' WALL-E! How's it sit? Even more so when the subject is infantry carriers. You must log in or register to reply here. At the same time, Smoke Jaguar geneticists began the task of creating a suitable breed of pilot. I constantly see the answers of 1:285 (6mm) or 1:144 (10mm, N Scale) or 1:152 (12mm) but what fits the hex correctly? If so, does anyone have examples on hand for comparison. Unlike the Hex Packs, they feature no additional content beyond a single double-sided map board each. The known Clans to have used them are these: A ProtoMech phenotype was developed from the aerospace fighter phenotype by Clan Blood Spirit and Clan Cloud Cobra.[25][26][27]. Not sure if the game is still made, I believe it isn't, but you can find the terrain on the second hand market (like Ebay). It sounds like a lot of 'mechs have very low densities, almost floating in water densities. According to Strategic Operations, page 10, WarShip classes are roughly defined as follows: Other subclasses or designations exist, such as "troop cruiser" or "pursuit cruiser", though they can usually be placed in one of the above classes. In BattleTech, spacegoing WarShips are often classified with the following terms, based on their role. In early 2013 Catalyst Game Labs began publishing the MapPack series, PDF editions of previously published maps. I like the bigger miniatures, it gives more detail. Thanks guys, appreciate all the advice and knowledge. #1 How does the mechwarrior figs compare in size to the regular Battletech guys ? Like other units, the individual ProtoMech designs have their own roles which are determined by speed, armor, and equipment. Your friendly neighborhood Periphery pirate! Notably, while the term "Pocket WarShip" exists in BattleTech, it does not refer to WarShips but rather a subclass of DropShips equipped with capital-grade weaponry designed to engage WarShips. Falls under "quality control". German edition published in 1993 as "GeoTech I" (see below). generally, the differences between lights and assualts hasn't been height, it has been width and general bulk.. assualt mechs tend to be chunkier, with thicker body parts, more barrel shaped chest areas, etc. Most Protos have a "main gun", a single weapon or piece of equipment of any weight which is braced to the torso but aimed and fired with their hands. I just finished my 8th one, and I'm considering giving 2in hexes a try. BATTLETECH. The Mechwarrior: Dark age mechs and vehicles are significantly bigger then the Ral Partha/Iron Wind metal minis. Plus the Soviets have long proved that there are ways to pack people tighter into vehicles than the US army does it. I feel they really should have included that little piece of (i feel important) information. The Irresponsible Captain Tyler. Two additional weapons or pieces of equipment can be mounted on the torso, though their combined weight cannot exceed two tons, and each arm can mount one weapon no greater than a half-ton in weight. I was disappointed in Ironwind's official infantry and found this supplier to be superior in quantity, price, scale, and quality: https://www.pfc-cinc.com/solar_empire_marines.html Or, as the next source, there are 'Mech blueprints. parts of Map Set 2, plus four plastic paper clips. on: 15 September 2012, 21:08:30 . As a result they are depicted as being something like twice as big today as they were originally. 6000-8000 points will allow you to build a decent force. Pretty cunning, don't you think. Batter might be a bit messy, although you could make pancakes after, I suppose. You can do anything you want in it. Some, like the Siren, use their high speed for recon work. I have been looking all over for a solid answer for what size mini's battle tech uses on a standard board and I can finding a lot of conversations dancing around the topic but not providing a strait answer. it's a bit comforting knowing that to fire we're a same color- flammable. German BattleTech licensee Ulisses Spiele published a range of map sets ("BattleTech Kartensets") in 2014, both as a physical product and as PDF downloads. Thanks to you both, that does help. Count the heat hawk as an axe. [2] Under AeroTech rules, each hex on the low altitude map corresponds with a mapsheet at the ground level. [5], ProtoMechs achieved their baptism of fire during the Battle of Huntress, which was also when Smoke Jaguar Khan Lincoln Osis first learned of the program. (Where if we present human can figure out buildings 40-50 stories easy, future human must have like hundred stories buildings . Martial Successor Nadesico. Mechs are BIG. When there is, the CGLs tend to run a little larger. 2. add battletech folder to exclusion list for windows defender. It was published for free. The zaku is a jumping heavy in battletech with a hand mounted autocannon. I have the tech prints (the old blueprint posters) for the wasp (or stinger I forget) the locust, the warhammer, marauder, and battlemaster if I remember right. Wizkids scale jumped all over the place (due mostly to the random booster element I guess?) I like using cheap poster frames for two and four maps. Someone must've put a ton of time into this with how many ships are represented on here. Image size. Players are free to create hex-based terrain to play on, and earlier mapsheets had backs with blank hex grids on which players could draw terrain features as desired. As such their agility falls somewhere between infantry and 'Mechs: they can move through most buildings with minimal collateral damage and can go from a prone to standing position in seconds. His outrage at having been uninformed about the secret project was tempered by his Clan's dire needs and the good performance of the ProtoMechs against desperate odds. I spend way too much time zooming in on stuff. Privacy Policy. You can also get them printed, as is via Poster Print factor linked on the thread with less modification. [12], ProtoMechs mass between two to fifteen metric tons and stand anywhere from four to six meters in height, with the cockpit mounted in the upper chest. Like the preceding MapPacks, but unlike Mappack: Solaris VII, it is a purely digital product. Or for something a little easier to work with: middle right edge. 3. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. - Bob Ross. [6][7][8] The printed size of a standard mapsheet is 22 inches by 18 inches (not 22 by 17 as many rulebooks suggest). When is wave 2 happening? If you're using Map Sheets, I remember a rule of 2 mechs per sheet. As luck would have it, the decision proved fortuitous: Clan aerospace pilots' small bodies allowed them to easily fit inside the cockpit of a ProtoMech, while their brains and circulatory systems, bred to withstand high-G maneuvering, could better endure the negative side effects associated with the EI system. The "Solaris VII Action Pack" maps are double-sided, one with the arena one, and the other with the same map. Dubbed ProtoMechs, the ultimate goal of these machines was for a Point of five, working in unison, to be as effective as a BattleMech, while requiring less than half the amount of construction resources. Conversely, some Renegade Legion products contain mapsheets that were never officially published for BattleTech, but can be used for BattleTech nonetheless. While a couple MWDA 'mechs are small enough to look good alongside IWM stuff, I've found a surprising number of conventional vehicles that work. This box contains two all-new mapsheets in the new thick cardboard style of the HexPacks and Kartensets that were designed specifically for this product, labeled "Mine" and "Country Side 3": Map Pack Worldwide Event 2018 Terrain Set, And Hell Followed With Him Worldwide Event 2020, Your BattleTech News Roundup For January, 2023, Your BattleTech News Roundup For December, 2022, Experimental Technical Readout: Royal Fantasy, Catalyst Game Labs Link - Grasslands BattleMat, https://www.sarna.net/wiki/index.php?title=Mapsheet&oldid=932302. So I guess the answer is 1:285 (6mm) is "considered" default but the other two are likely to work. The first all-new map set in nearly twenty years, Map Pack: Grasslands includes six double-sided maps providing twelve brand-new battlefields. Windows Installation. (Disregarding the autocannon for the purpose of this discussion.) I keep hearing about it but not dates. when playing on other hex terrain), one "board" translates as 17 hexes for determining range. Note: I should really, just reformat, and report the maps to be ready to print by inked. Maps included: Large Mountain #1, Deep Canyon #1 (double-sided). The "Open Terrain #1" map was identical to the "Open Terrain" map previously published in the first Map Set, albeit printed on paper instead of cardboard. There is a lot of conflicting information on how tall battlemechs are, and no sources explicitly state the exact height of any mechs. Cookie Notice It's not for everyone. ~Orin J. ProtoMechs can carry most of the same weapons and equipment as found on 'Mechs, although instead of carrying standard missile launchers they mount groups of missile tubes together. Recent Reviews: Very Positive (154) All Reviews: Very Positive (18,774) Release Date: Apr 24, 2018. Taking over the Universe one mapsheet at a time. Classic BattleTech (board game)map Original 1984 Battledroidsmap The standard mapsheet layout has remained unchanged from the original Battledroidsedition through to the latest editions, though there have been cosmetic changes. [2], It was not until the development of the Enhanced Imaging (EI) system by Clan scientists that the ProtoMech concept became a viable one. But its cheap, so you can get more if it does. All the official TT sources stay within the same general size ranges that has always been the same. I'm assuming you mean the WizKids "Clix" versions and the IWM versions? The Solaris VII: The Game World boxed set, published in 1991, included maps for five arenas (with one arena requiring two sheets), one for each of the major houses. This page was last edited on 24 February 2023, at 15:28. FASA product #1683, released in 1997. Lyran Commonwealth,6th Donegal Guards-Nightstar. Compare that to something like the 16-inch (406 mm) naval guns on most US battleships of the same era, which had a range of over 40 km, and you see just how meaningless a gun's bore size can be. The average 'mech height, according to the Battletech fluff, is 10 meters. Press J to jump to the feed. The standard mapsheet layout has remained unchanged from the original Battledroids edition through to the latest editions, though there have been cosmetic changes. I would Pick the Atlas in what Ever Program you using to get the Images from for scaling if it give you a Volume amount for the Model Scale all the other Model up and down until they Match the the Atlas Tonnage to Volume Ratio. Although the battle was ultimately lost, the ProtoMech's debut could not be ignored by the other Clans. while lights usually are more spindly and thin. BattleTech - The Board Game of Armored Combat, Quote from: Delta_Ice on 06 October 2011, 23:35:09, Quote from: Lord Cameron on 07 October 2011, 12:17:39, Quote from: whiteshadowzo on 07 October 2011, 13:25:52, Quote from: Sigma on 08 October 2011, 01:10:48, Quote from: krazzyharry on 08 October 2011, 18:56:31, Quote from: Lorcan Nagle on 08 October 2011, 17:24:05, Quote from: Talz on 08 October 2011, 19:31:06, Quote from: Weirdo on 09 October 2011, 10:38:02, Quote from: Col.Hengist on 02 January 2015, 13:16:47, Quote from: Wikkid on 02 January 2015, 13:34:47, Quote from: Col.Hengist on 02 January 2015, 16:10:55, Quote from: Greywind on 02 January 2015, 16:03:33. The downsides are it doesn't have hexes (unless you draw them) so we tend to use felt for Alpha Strike or inch movement. Some use bulkier materials, some don't. It's a gator with a nuke, whats the problem. It is shorter in height than most BT hovers but once elevated on a base I think it will not be very noticeable. . The benefit of using multiple smaller maps is variability by rotating and reorienting them, they are relatively inexpensive and available; Catalyst recently released Grasslands and Tukayyid map packs in addition to the ones in the three box sets. (The BattleTech 25th Anniversary Introductory Box Set may have been intended to be the first product featuring these improved maps, but its release was delayed until 2011 by other issues.). Which in soft sci fi, aka futuristic fantasy is not a problem. 1,471,925 C-bills Technical specifications 'Mech type Inner Sphere BattleMech Mass 30 tons Chassis Republic-R Armor Durallex Medium Engine Leenex 60 Communications System Dalban Interact Targeting Tracking System Dalban Urban Heat Sinks 11 single Speed 32 km/h Jump Jets Pitban 6000 Armament 1x AC/10 1x small laser BV (1.0) 454 BV (2.0) 504[1][2] There was one such map for each (Light, Medium, Heavy and Assault-class) "Solaris VII Action Pack" set and one for the "Youngblood Training Field" that went with the Atlas and Marauder promotional pieces. Vehicles and dropships are also compared as well. up until the first edition of Map Set 2) the BattleTech maps were printed on thick cardboard similar to the maps included with the BattleTech 2nd Edition and CityTech boxed sets.Starting with the second edition of Map Set 2 (1991) and the BattleTech, Third Edition (1992) boxed set, maps were printed on thinner paper. There a nice 'Mech / vehicle scaling chart in TRO: 3039. Special rules are provided for playing on certain maps. Under standard rules the mapsheet is also referred to as a unit of distance with the range of artillery pieces being originally expressed in terms of the number of mapsheets (or "boards") a given unit could fire. [13] Weapons such as the ER Micro Laser and Light Machine Gun were initially developed by the Smoke Jaguars specifically for ProtoMechs, though they have since spread to other combat units. Lucky I found this post as I was wondering the same question and I have to say that, thanks to Sigma's pics (scales generally go over my head), the size differences on some of them is mad! One side depicted part of Imperial City, the other Kado-guchi Valley. We want to get our hands on battle maps that are bigger and better quality than the Battletech maps. They're Macross kits mounted on clix bases. So if you're playing a lance-on-lance game, two mapsheets should be enough, with a third if you want more maneuvering space. This gave room for the pilot to ride in the torso while still allowing ample space for weapons. The Ishiyama map was intended to be cut in quarters and then randomly arranged each match to reflect the unknown layout of the arena. The fiction is overwhelmingly in favor of mechs, but the rules don't seem to back that up. Why ? So 4v4/5v5 is two maps, 8v8/10v10 is four maps, 12v12/15v15 is six maps, etc. This is great! German edition published in 1993 as "GeoTech II" (see below). This, combined with their smaller engines, would allow the Smoke Jaguars to make many more of these for less material. The guy specifically asked for maps, not for instruction on not using them. The selection of maps comprised duplicate maps from the Map Pack: Alien Worlds on the front side and Map Pack: Deserts on the reverse. However, this will give you just one (albeit large) map. Due to their size and tonnage, ProtoMech weapon loadouts are somewhere between that of battle armor and 'Mechs. A lot of the heights are derived from their Mecha inspirations out of anime. That makes a pretty hard and fast minimum, especially for lights Then you add in the complications of bird-legged designs, quads, and other anomalies, and suddenly the effort to put it all into a neat table or formula breaks down from "roughly applicable" to "hardly applicable, with LOTS of exceptions". Beyond the boxed sets and dedicated map packs, some other individual products include boardgame mapsheets with hexes. The quadruped ProtoMechs are difficult to pilot due to their nonhuman posture, so The Society developed a drug named. FASA product #1610; also colloquially known as the "Map Set #1". If one side has CBT minis and the other has the MWDA figs, it's going to look pretty stupid, but shouldn't affect gameplay. Edit - if you are using any of the recent Catalyst campaign books, these maps will be used. Re: Official height (dimensions) of Mechs and Vehicles? With BT maps is you generally use one map per person, per lance/star. Scale in battletech miniatures is an iffy thing, even within figures made within a similar time frame, I wouldn't fret about it too much. Does anyone know if there is a chart or table or something somewhere that lists the height of each mech in meters? "There's a difference between the soldier and his fight. During the early experimental stage, the technical limitations preventing the construction of Inner Sphere ProtoMech chassis were sidestepped with the Word utilizing captured Clan models. I bought a several yards of various greens, browns, tans, blue, black and grey. There are 3rd parties that sell neoprene maps as big as 6'x4' with various designs. For example, when the ProtoMech's arm is torn off, the pilot feels a great deal of pain, almost as their own arm had been ripped away. The four of them together form the tournament map. It's only 36" wide so you may need two pieces to cover larger tables, and over time it can wear a bit. As this is the heavy tank it fits in well with the larger BT scale. evilauthor. Terrain rules. Damn that is a massive difference, glad I didn't decide to put a bid on the set that I saw online. Certainly if you took all the art, even just out of '39 or '25, and stacked them all so that they're all around same head height, I would believe it. A high-quality neoprene map set focused on unusual biomes, with four double-sized, 34 x 22", double-sided BattleMats. Several hex maps have been released for various arenas on Solaris VII. Afterwards, the line reverted to just "BattleTech". 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