Not to mention their ability to tech like hell. You wont gain cores on them, but. Press J to jump to the feed. Youll also get an achievement to show off how great youve become at EU4: theDar al-Islam. Dont even consider fighting the Ottomans if you arent allied to several strong nations like Austria, Russia or the Mamluks. Early game there's always the classic no-CB DOW Byzantium strategy. This part is for those players who are trying to complete the Unify Islam mission, in which you unite all corners of the vast Islamic world under a single Caliphate once more. Techs that give tactics are also a nice advantage, but not as big of an advantage as morale. Boats. Europa Universalis 4 (EU4) Guide: Ottomans Made Easy - Late Game We're in the home stretch! Spain might lend a large army in Morocco, so be wary when and where you attack. You don't need any military idea groups or military national ideas to wipe out the Ottomans. If this doesnt bring their disloyalty above 50, do so to make the annexation process easier. Moscow is a tougher nut to crack focus on core conquest to make your way into Russia and take the city. 1.18 Kilwa -> Italy 85% reduced coring cost One-tag WC, 1.19 Aztec True One-tag WC AAR (complete), 1.20 Theravada SpanishBritalianFrancoPrussian Holy Roman Emperor of China One-tag, Sail On, Ceylon - A Non-European Colonial AAR for EU4. From 1500 onwards, its time to fight anything, anywhere, all the time. I set up two: the Ottoman Hormuz Company and the Ottoman Horn of Africa company. form italy (maybe with milan first cause of the sweet ideias), go quantity offensive defensive. This has a simple reason: Spain. I wasn't attacked even once during my sieges and once I scored 100% I liberated some countries and absorbed enough provinces to get me to around 100% over extension. Itd give me a serious coalition I dont want to face yet. Use your fleet to prevent the Spanish from landing more units in Morocco while you siege it down. You also take 60%+ of their trade income with this deal. What (military) ideas do you have? Once call for peace is sounded, you should peace out after a few months as it quickly becomes too expensive in dip to maintain. You have expanded into what is fairly worthless, empty, lands on the steppes, whereas the Ottomans have most likely expanded into the rich cities of Anatolia and Egypt. After that, make Paris a state and assign a Pasha to it in the corresponding maintenance screen. I still had Ajam as a vassal, which gets cores on much of Iran. At this point, the war is won. I just needed to buy enough time to take Tunis/Crete out of the equation. When you control these cities, you gain the permanent modifier. Prussian troops stackwipe Ottos easy in the 1600s. , that you get when youve conquered the southern coast of the Arabian Peninsula. The Great Horde is a great nation to do this with. I always do a little DLC recommendation to make the run more fun previously I recommended Cradle of Civilization and Rights of Man. Continue building up your army as the force limit grows, but beware of your dependence on janissaries. The Ottomans will have pretty good discipline, a large manpower pool and a good economy for mercs. At this point, you might be running into government capacity issues. They're frankly not nearly as difficult to beat as commentary on this sub would have you believe. Then you declare war on Byzantium a few years after 1444 and pray the Ottomans do so too after you. Play Burgundy for example and it's all going to be right there in one region. A mysterious list, a small Hungarian town, and unimaginable horror. Play your cards right, and you'll be on your way to restoring the Caliphate. If I put all of my allies into one battle (Me, France, Venice, Nogai, Genoa) then I might have a chance, but now I've had to dissolve the Venice alliance so I didn't get dragged into a war with just me and Venice. Just tried this out but the blasted PLC AI was hell bent on losing and had to delete the save since I'd already given up half my country to separate peace Aragon. as soon as you can, since you need them to restore the Caliphate. With everyone on different sides, and AI sucks at doing multi front wars, Ottoman will usually go for one country instead of everyone at once, allowing the rests of the nations to siege freely. Just getting all of the arriving divisions to the front by rail is enough, not to mention everything else. Venice still owns Crete, and Genoa still has a bunch of islands in the Meditteranean, as well as outposts in Crimea. . Retake all of Transylvanias cores, including Maramaros, and take the provinces in the state of Alfld. 43.9K subscribers Let's play Europa Universalis IV (EU4) as the Ottomans! Afterward, you can focus on expanding your coastal possessions to gain more power in the Horn of Africa trade node. With my aggressive expansion pretty high in Europe, its time we shift away. their armies are pretty much always superior to any other nations, even when massively outnumbered. Don't get confused by map size. Gotta love EU4 logic. What military ideas do they have? Take at least, More importantly, the land you had to take to unify the Caliphate should have made you a formidable power by now. You can now complete the missionsControl the DanubeandConquer Transsylvania, but dont complete them just yet. Now what you wanna do in your position is to only defend in rough terrain, such as hills, highlands, and mountains(Southern Hungary and Greece are good for this, along with the Caucuses), and to increase your army quality with idea groups, advisors, and religion (Protestant for 2.5% discipline and 5% morale if you have the common sense dlc, and Orthodox for 5% discipline and 33% manpower if you have Third Rome dlc. After finishing up Sicily and Morocco, you can cross the Strait of Gibraltar and siege Spain itself. I used to wait until late game to roflstomp them with my Vodka-fueled endless spacemarines but this is no longer an option, since on very hard they blob endlessly and since we share a border in Crimea, war will come. Its fundamental throughout this guide that you use little diplomatic entanglements to further your conquest. I'd recommend not getting too much warscore. This will save you from a continuous threat in the north and allows you to concentrate against more direct enemies, like the Timurids, Austria, and Spain. This is typically when other great powers take their opportunity to declare war on the ottomans so they end up fighting 3 wars at once. . Use them to take a lot of land for cheap, and use Russia to distract the Timurids in the north. Build strong Alliances around the Ottomans so you can call them in when they are weak. I beat them 2 times , once as Prussia ( it isn't hard to beat them as Prussia ) and as Great Britain ( I allied Russia so Ottomans had to deal with 2 flanks ).My biggest tip for you is that you dont let Ottomans blob too much .I mean if u see them eating the whole of Russia or the whole of PLC , you have to prepare to go to war with them.Get some good generals , some good moral ( something that ottomans dont have ) and some good discipline and you win . great project. As long as you own at least one occupation, Tunis will never be able to annex Fezzan, allowing you to vassalize it instead and use their cores against Tunis later. The techs that give morale are HUGE (4, 15, 26, 30), and can give you a massive advantage in battle. How good is your economy? Tell them not to get called into their stupid offensive wars so that youre not caught off guard. You need to provide at least cursory information about your situation if you want help. Avoid the war goal on purpose, occupy Constantinople + Turkish provinces only. It shouldn't be hard man .. Keep a continuous Spy network on Tunis to expand faster towards the Atlantic coast. This part of the guide may look completely different from mine. Make your way towards the Holy Roman Empire to go there where the real-life Ottomans couldnt: Vienna. Fezzan may be allied to the Mamluks. Meanwhile, declare war on the Mamluks to take Palestine, Transjordan, and start expanding into Arabia. If he goes for other nations, it's just easier for you to carpet siege all the forts you want. Before declaring war, see if there are any vassals you can annex. I was just bribed to stop being corrupt. Moreover, we need a Moroccan province, Ifni. If Byzantium was at war with the Ottomans, you now become the war leader and can call in all of your strong allies (e.g. Punch Syria out of them if you can. Late mid-game and late game their troops have become much worse though, and if you play western tech you can usually crush significantly larger Ottoman armies in that period. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Genoa and Venice still hold on to some of our rightful territories. If you need a repeatable method, dont annex Morocco after youre done. When you control these cities, you gain the permanent modifierCustodian of the Holy Cities. I declared war on Morocco, which they had guaranteed. Their military modifiers will be much weaker in the late game usually. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Once youve successfully taken Samarkand, the one area you still need for the Caliphate is. More importantly, the land you had to take to unify the Caliphate should have made you a formidable power by now. Keep some stacks in Europe and the Middle-East, to combat any Spanish troops should they decide to do a naval invasion. Hungary, Austria, Poland) for free. Prevent their room for expansion, cut them off so rebels can take hold or other nations can try to expand, and declare war whenever the truce timer is up. Are the Mamluks still around? Then you peace out, take nothing and watch the rebels spawn. Without forts, their lands will capitulate very fast and leave them indefensible, whether vs the likes of Ramazan/Mameluks or even yourself in the next war. . Most nations will want to be your vassal; conquer the remainder. Numbers don't mean a whole lot when you can't fight quality+co and offensive for a +15% discipline is good (discipline boost tactics too, so its very good). Beats conquering, right? If you don't have either of these or any dlc, don't worry about religion). Build your Navy to fight. These vassals make up your siege troops. Try to disconnect their capital from asia. EUIV: AAR's, Let's Plays, and Fan Fiction, EU IV: Alternate History Short Story Contest Contr. Cookie Notice For the nations you choose to play and the courses you chart for those nations. Its useful for you to take this before a rising threat, Russia, can show itself. And dont forget to fabricate a claim, of course. EUIV: AAR's, Let's Plays, and Fan Fiction, EU IV: Alternate History Short Story Contest Contr. Look around Ottoman. I'm around the same size as the Ottomans now, but their total units are 173k compared to my 49k. I smell a beefy QQ to their southeast, them declaring war would really shaft the Ottomans. You can now also complete the missionConquer the Levantto grant you a bunch more permanent claims all around. By now, the Ottomans are a powerhouse that dominates the Middle East and the Eastern Mediterranean. I would recommend defensive idea group and drill your armies !!!! For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Ally a powerful nation nearby, such as Great Britain or Scandinavia, and snake your way to Paris from a coastal province. For more information, please see our You can now also complete the mission. Be ready to play defensively if Ottoman decides to choose you. If you have built up your nation in the 1650-1821, you should be able to handle them as Spain. They are Sunni with the Shafi'i school and have the unique Mamluk government. At the time the achievement fired it was all of France and Netherlands essentially. Ally (a couple) big nation(s) to make them not want to attack me to give me time to prepare. I knew espionage as last idea group and I figured it wasn't worth it, but wanted to try it anyway for fun. If you can't do that, at least guaranteeing them (if you're strong enough, of course) will keep the Ottos out for some years, wait for them to be on a long war, cancel the guarantee and attack after the truce. If you manage to get to around 60% war score, then you could demand a province with a fort that you haven't occupied. It's probably a bit late now anyway, once I finish my first game I'm getting a couple of the DLCs and probably not playing as Lithuania again. If Byzantium was at war with the Ottomans, you now become the war leader and can call in all of your strong allies (e.g. If they engage you in a bad position, forfeit the battle to prevent a stack wipe. The Ottomans are in a precarious position because they need to essentially control two land masses that are not easily accessible. Not saying quantity is worse, cause quantity is AMAZING for what it does, which is usually worth it for countries with either eh or downright shitty land and therefore economies, but outclassing the Ottomans is the key to victory in this case. However, history wont stop us! They have really high income so privateering in their nodes wouldn't do much. I'm just trying out Muscovy once more after not having played for while and lo and behold the Ottoblobs get Crimea for free. Dont give them land though, thatd be a waste of your precious war score. Just like in actual history, France and the Ottomans make quite natural allies. So what i prefer to do is basically base race my opponent and take down any forts blocking my way to their capital. East Africa is a great target. So, feel free to jump around in this guide to have it suit your campaign. Engage when you have a clear advantage and use your massive amounts of vassals. That and Quality should give you some pretty good troops. If you want to spice up lategame i recommend some RP. I have a good navy and army but I definitely can't beat them alone. It's actually significantly easier to take the Ottomans down the later you go. Everybody will then gang up on them afterwards, leading to a downward spiral. Yeah, they aren't the scourge of Christendom for nothing. Call if Uzbek if you need the help. Moreover, it will anger our next target of expansion: Tunis. The Ottomans are hard to take down the longer you leave them undisturbed. I also guaranteed the Moroccans, to prevent Spain from consolidating its foothold in the Meditteranean. How do I win a war against them? Take the tribal kingdom to the south as your vassal. Eventually, they won't be able to sustain these wars as efficiently from the constant lack of manpower and they'll be taking loans for merc armies. Watch if you can either go around it by declaring war on an ally, vassalizing the state instead, or ask it kindly to break its alliance using the Great Power status. If you don't have all the DLCs, make sure to at least get the Cradle of Civilization DLC. Later on, the Ottomans don't have janissaries and your units should be just as good as theirs. If they have a weaker ally (Tunis is often good for this), DOW on them; this will drag Ottos in, but without the benefit of their powerful allies. and since my goals are quite small and achievable I usually. You may be able to take the Nile Delta, but this could be too expensive at this time. Even with my main allies France and Venice (60kish each) we're still not as powerful as them combined. If there's any blob near him, they usually have him rivaled, allowing easy alliance. Although they may be weak, theyre sitting on at least one province we need to restore the Caliphate Cordoba- and they may have taken Sicily, where we need two provinces: Palermo and Messina. It's best to strike if they are already in a war. This war can be tricky since Hungary could have a high discipline. The Ottoman troops are better than European troops for a large part of the game because of their bonuses, and the fact that they have increased pips. I control most of Northern Africa and Central Europe. We cant have that! Thats right Europe seemed to have forgotten what weve been doing to the other states, so its time for a friendly reminder. Right. quick and dirty: hudavendigar, constantinople, kocaeli (? All of this conquest you can do diplomatically, but dont be afraid to declare war if you want things to be a little quicker. I'm on 700 development with 89 provinces, they're on 878 development with 93. Ottomans should get . Rinse and repeat to make them a non-factor eventually. At this point, the war is won. They guarantee the independence of Medina and Cyprus while Hejaz and Fadl are their vassals. The intent is for you to play along and improve your skills and understanding of the game, and have fun all the while! Last game i played as france and struggled to fight the ottoman military, simply from the overwhelming manpower. Dont give them land though, thatd be a waste of your precious war score. disaster which hurts your technological advancements tremendously. I was sowing discontent Ottoman Empire right from the get go, but at this point I started funneling my extremely large treasury into supporting the Ottoman rebellion. By doing so, youll deny the Russians a strategically useful area of operations, and protect your core land. You can also take a single Croatian province to core-conquer large parts of Dalmatia. Particularly as Poland/Commonwealth, which has a nice set of military national ideas. You can easily take down some enemy stacks trying to avoid your blob army for some additional WE. This EU4 Ottomans Guide is currently for patch 1.33.3 and with all DLCs installed. However, the coastal areas are likely up for grabs. Keep attacking them as soon as that truce is up. Spain will be the toughest nut youll have to crack in this entire campaign and kind of the final boss of this, The Ottomans historically had issues expanding into Persia. Tbh, quality troops will usually win wars against the Ottomans. I was playing as Byzantium and was able to defeat the ottomans with Poland Austria and Hungary in Early game so just save scum until you can beat them. I'd suggest playing more aggressive in your conquests, or try to botch them early on because that always works best. From your base in Morocco and Spain, it shouldnt be hard for you to break your alliance with France and declare war on them. ThroughHumanistideas andTradeideas, you can make your country less prone to revolt and wealthier. They are superior early on. Those penalties are insignificant compared to being able to remove them quickly. Don't let them. For your finances throughout this run, trade is instrumental. When youre already allied, youre giving that country a diplomatic relationship slot anyhow. Your situation might differ from mine, but I had to deal with a massive Timurids that united all of Persia. The Great Horde is a great nation to do this with. With both of them weakening, I swooped in and strengthened my position in the Balkan. its either that or biga), sinope, amasya. What do I do? Pick one difficult achievement from steam (preferably one that is owned by less than 1% of players) and start a campaign with that achievement as a goal. After you dealt with the Mamluks, youre the only Great Power left in Arabia. Edit: and why is my force limit only 73k when theirs is 175k :(. They have claims on the provinces, which means that if they get the siege, you wont be able to take it in the peace deal. You can also take a single Croatian province to core-conquer large parts of Dalmatia. I wanted to do this without wasting my manpower so I can finish off England, France and Poland right after. Its also important to consolidate your holdings at home. The Ottomans tend to be hard to beat around the mid game, when they build up their Jannisaries (sp?) I just said in a different forum two days ago that WitE would be a much better game if Paradox had designed the UI. Total is plus 83%. . Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations Release Trailer, In case this is where you enter the series, first of all welcome! I cant forget to mention the use of trade companies at this point. I can understand the complaints about micro-managing, and it's especially true if you're colonial, but that's a consequence of choice in some sense. If you annex them, you can no longer get the -10% Aggressive Expansion bonus. I am playing as Venice , Ironman, Beta 1.13 . In my game, I had a problem. Its useful for you to grab important Caucasus provinces early. Of note, Ottomans actually lose lucky nation status in 1700. Also I'm a scrub. This is part 3 of the Ottomans made easy EU4 guide. Works better if you have a fleet to block the straight, e.g. Well I just got out of a disasterous war with the Ottomans. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I'm not sure how much warscore triggers the call for peace, but I'd stay below 50% if you can. However, always have an army ready in case you need it for war. Prussia and Commonwealth are capable of wiping out numerically superior Ottoman armies. Now observe the situation. Valve Corporation. After you declare war on Morocco, focus on landing an army on Sicily and taking down the Spanish and Moroccan holdings in Africa. Which, if any, DLC do you have? The Ottomans have a unique tech group, Anatolian, which starts out with some of the best units in the game, but they tend to fizzle out the later and later you go. And actually, 173k is quite a lot for AI Ottomans in 1609, I think. Take at leastIfni, Malaga, Cordoba, Palermo,andMessinato Unify Islam. To fully take advantage of their situation, you should wait until they are engaged in a war. It was something like 250/month ,but thanks to owning both North and South America I had huge treasury plus huge monthly income so it was no big deal. Revanchism might have something to do with that https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Warfare#Revanchism. Take forts. Who do the Ottomans have as rivals? when you reach tech 19 units, they wont stand a chance, Usually what I do if I know I need to eventually fight the Ottomans (for an achievement). It may not display this or other websites correctly. Privacy Policy. However, by the logic that the enemy of my enemy is my friend, I reached out to a powerful historical ally of the Ottomans France makes a perfect ally in this scenario. Retake all of Transylvanias cores, including Maramaros, and take the provinces in the state of Alfld. One of the biggest flaws for the Ottos is that they're very spread out across three continents (most of the time) meaning they are pretty prone to splitting their forces. When youre annexing a vassal, see if you can concentrate land. Optimally you want them to release bulgaria. When dealing with a large nation, core conquest is a very viable tactic. With a strong navy you can win half the war (or more accurately, 25%, because that's what you'll get for fully blockading them). I'd take Constantinople and Edirne so you have a land block of the Bosporus and the Ottos can't move their troops through. Its also important to consolidate your holdings at home. 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